This was quite a find--a crate for carrying quart-size water bottles from the La Vida Mineral Springs, probably dating to the 1930s or 1940s.
As noted in this blog previously, the naturally hot mineral water seeping down from the hills above the old La Vida resort, north of Carbon Canyon Road, just a short distance east of today's Olinda Village, was bottled and sold throughout western America from the late 1920s.
Over the years, there were various sized bottle of the product, ranging from 7 ounces on up to the quart and a wide variety of flavors, including lemon-lime, cherry, root beer, grape, strawberry, grapefruit, and more.
There was a bottling facility on the premises, which had a Placentia rural route mail delivery address, as well as in downtown Fullerton. There were branches of the company elsewhere, such as in Sacramento.
Advertisements in newspapers and magazines, especially in the early days of the end of the Twenties and in the early Thirties, touted the health benefits from drinking the water and testimonials from homeopathic doctors, regular users and others claimed that La Vida water was a restorative product sure to help out others.
Whether or not the flavored mineral water actually delivered on the promises and hype, the product had a long life and seemed to have been pretty successful for a number of years prior to the 1960s. Having this crate, even if a little worse for wear, along with a good sampling of bottles from the company, is a nice addition to a decent little collection of artifacts related to La Vida.
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11 January 2016
Carbon Canyon Historic Artifact #49: La Vida Mineral Water Bottle Opener
This is the third bottle opener of a distinctive design from the La Vida Mineral Water Company or La Vida Bottling Company to be highlighted here.
These can be tough to date, but, given that La Vida bottled water appears to have been sold from about 1927 to 1963 and given that this is not likely from the earlier period, when the openers had a sharp point to piece the cap, but instead pulled the cap off from the outside, it might be from the 1940s or so.
Note that stamped on either side is the name "La Vida Beverages" and then, on one side, "Deliciously Different" and, on the other, "Everybody's Choice." A search of newspaper ads, articles and other sources didn't come up with the use of those terms.
Anyway, this is another item to document the history of an enterprise that was heavily promoted and sold throughout the American West from the late Twenties to the early Sixties.
These can be tough to date, but, given that La Vida bottled water appears to have been sold from about 1927 to 1963 and given that this is not likely from the earlier period, when the openers had a sharp point to piece the cap, but instead pulled the cap off from the outside, it might be from the 1940s or so.
Note that stamped on either side is the name "La Vida Beverages" and then, on one side, "Deliciously Different" and, on the other, "Everybody's Choice." A search of newspaper ads, articles and other sources didn't come up with the use of those terms.
Anyway, this is another item to document the history of an enterprise that was heavily promoted and sold throughout the American West from the late Twenties to the early Sixties.
25 June 2014
Carbon Canyon Historical Artifact #45: La Vida Mineral Springs Bottle Opener
This is another great artifact and is the second bottle opener featured on this blog that comes from the La Vida Mineral Springs resort and its mineral water bottling operation.
Where the other opener was the kind you'd punch into a cap and then pry it off, our example here fits over a cap and lifts it off, indicating a later generation than the first, perhaps from the 1940s or 1950s.
As can be seen in the above photo, the La Vida name is subscribed by the motto "Distinctive Beverages."
Then, on the reverse, another motto following from the first is found and reads, "They're Naturally Better," meaning, of course, that the water flows "naturally" from the springs.
In contrast to the first opener, this one is in generally excellent shape, with some minor rust, pitting, scratching and other surface wear, but nowhere near as rusty as its predecessor. In fact, it would look good displayed next to a beautiful green La Vida soda bottle sitting atop the dining room buffet.
27 January 2014
Carbon Canyon Historical Artifact #42: La Vida Mineral Water Bottle Opener
It's a little worse for wear, but there probably aren't a whole lot of these out there.
This is a bottle opener for La Vida Mineral Water, bottled from the hot springs at the La Vida Mineral Springs resort in the Brea portion of Carbon Canyon.
The water was bottled for a period in Placentia and also in Fullerton and branch plants were in northern California, as well.
As noted here previously, the water was sold from the late 1920s and several examples of bottles from 7.5 ounces up have been shown here in other posts.
The opener is pretty rusty, but the lettering can be made out pretty well. The opener could date to the early days of the selling of the mineral water, perhaps the 1930s. Someone who knows bottle openers can probably give a date, so if you have one to provide, please leave a comment.
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| Here is a circa 1930s bottle opener for La Vida Mineral Water, the name of which is on the flat panel. Click on any photo to see them in a separate window in an enlarged view. |
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| The reverse of a La Vida Mineral Water bottle opener, ca. 1930s, with the phrase "Internationally Indorsed" on the flat middle panel. |
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| A detail of one of the flat panels on the bottle opener with the wording "La Vida Mineral Water." |
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| A detail of the "Internationally Indorsed" flat panel. |
22 December 2013
Personal Recollections of La Vida Mineral Springs
Recently, correspondence with Roberta Wright, whose family operated the La Vida Mineral Springs resort on the Brea side of Carbon Canyon for nearly fifty years, included information that helps provide a fuller picture of the history of that facility.
Mrs. Wright's grandfather, William Newton Miller, was the owner of La Vida from about 1924, as first noted here from an Orange County Register history timeline. The source, however, stated that Miller operated the resort from that date with an unnamed son-in-law. What Mrs. Wright clarified was that the son-in-law was, in fact, her father Robert L. Dickenson, who, with his wife, Lois Miller, owned La Vida with the other Miller children and managed the site for some thirty years. A post on this blog showing a 1960s postcard of one of the pools at La Vida included mention of a 1957 Los Angeles Times article that quoted "R.L. Dickenson" talking to the paper about the opening of the second pool at the resort. At the same time, some online references to Brea city council meetings from 1963-1967 included material about Dickenson petitioning the council for hearings about issues like property tax valuation and costs for new water delivery systems at La Vida.
She also commented that "my grampa was in the oil business and lost a fortune when the crash hit. The only thing he came away with was the springs, very sad time for the family." She noted that Miller, who was listed in the 1930 census as an "oil operator" was a partner in the Pugh-Miller Drilling Company and was a trustee in the Bank of America, as well as being involved in other organizations. Recent poking around found maps showing that the firm had oil wells near Topanga Canyon in the Santa Monica Mountains and, more importantly, in Signal Hill near Long Beach, which was a hugely successful oil field in the 1920s and afterward. The crash of the stock market in 1929 and the subsequent Great Depression is what Mrs. Wright referred to as affecting Miller's financial situation, leaving him with only La Vida.
Later, her account continued "my grandfather's shares were distributed evenly among the 4 siblings. The older 3 had also purchased some shares but my mom and dad had the most after grampa died." William Newton Miller, who was born in 1889, died in 1974, so those shares came some fifty years after he first became owner of La Vida.
She went on to say that "there were also 3 cabins across the street from the parking lot many years before me, but when I was young there were still remnants of the cabins on the ground. There also was a cabin on the hill across from the lower bath house which was below the restaurants about 20 yards of more. I used to work at the old bath house." As for this information, the first part seems to refer to structures, including one noted in several older (1920s or 1930s) real photo postcards of La Vida and one of these was lived in by the family of James Williams, who operated the resort from about 1915, a decade or more before Miller. William's descendant, Nick, shared some of that history and some photos of the family house perched on the hill across Carbon Canyon Road from the facility.
As for the old bath house, this is another structure found on La Vida postcards from the 1920s through the 1940s or 1950s, of which several examples have been posted here. Mrs. Wright recalled that "in the old bath house each tub had its own little room." One of the posts quoted from a Los Angeles Times report in the late 1950s about a disastrous boiler explosion that destroyed the original bath house and seriously wounded several persons. In the newer bath house, she remembered, "families would come in and go into the tub area and all of them would get in the tub together. The tubs were Roman sunken and you went down a few steps to get fully in." There is also a 1960s postcard, highlighted here in the past, that showed these tubs in the new bath house.
Mrs. Wright also stated that "there used to be a bottling plant down by where the old water tank sits on the hill and they bottled soda pop." This location would be on the far west side of the property where the tank, still sporting the La Vida logo, is the last major physical reminder, aside from bridge support bases and sidewalk remnants, of the facility. There was, however, also a La Vida plant in downtown Fullerton, as noted in some of the previous posts here.
She went on to say that, "around 1945-48 the soda pop company was sold to a man named Charley Shook (or Shuck)" who had once worked for Dr. Pepper. The earliest indications of the existence of the La Vida bottling company is from the late 1920s, about the time Miller became identified with the site, and there was a considerable expansion of the business during that era and well into the 1930s, when La Vida products were also bottled in northern California. Other posts here have featured La Vida bottles from such places as Sacramento and have spotlighted advertising efforts from the company in magazines and newspapers in the western states. Mrs. Wright then said that, "after that [the mid to late 1940s] they only bottled the spring water for a time and then that was also abandoned." Again, there are other posts here that feature La Vida bottles that appear to be from late 1940s to early 1950s era, when Shook (Shuck) appears to have expanded his efforts to market the soda.
Mrs, Wright continued that, regarding the water, it "is not sulphur, but mineral. There was a small sulphur stream that came out the canyon wall just down from the restaurant but it wa sclose to the water line of the creek. The spring is in a sort of a cave and was not drilled out by oil seekers." This is an interesting tidbit about the two types of volcanically-derived water found not just at La Vida but elsewhere in Carbon Canyon. Paul Nolan Hyde, a longtime resident in Sleepy Hollow, shared some of his remembrances for this blog in its early days, and specifically remembered the sulphuric content of the water in Carbon [Canyon] Creek when he was a boy back in the 1940s.
She also had an important correction regarding the pools, mentioned briefly above. She noted that "the pools are not described properly. The one in front with the fountain is the wading pool. It was the original pool and was at first deep in one end, but my dad had it filled to be a wading pool and installed the fountain when they built the big one behind it." This can be seen in the postcard here, highlighted in a previous post.
There was one other interesting Carbon Canyon tidbit shared by Mrs. Wright, namely that "my parents were part owners in the El Circulo, which was the place where the skiing ramp is." This was the "Club El Circulo," which Allen McCombs, publisher emeritus of the local Champion newspaper, stated was opened about 1963 where the old Camp Kinder Ring was operated from 1928 to 1958 by a Jewish organization in Los Angeles.
This new resort, Mrs. Wright went on to relate, "probably would have done well" except that there were some management issues "and the whole thing fell apart." She went to say that "even if the skiing ramp had not worked the rest of the project was a great idea and a lot of people came there to picnic and have dinner. There was a nice bar and restaurant and they had very good food." El Circulo later turned into the "Purple Haze," which had a colorful history in the late 1960s/early 1970s. The site has been, for many years, a horse stable and cattle sales facility.
The skiing ramp was known as "Ski Villa" and one of the more popular posts on this blog is about the short history of this unusual all-weather ski ramp with white needles as the base surface and the cement remains of which still are on the hillside off Canyon Hills Road just north of Carbon Canyon Road. With, however, indications that work on the long-gestating Canyon Hills subdivision of 76 houses is finally starting, the remains of the ramp are likely to removed in the very near future.
Hata still retains ownership of La Vida, though his late 1990s plans to reconstitute La Vida in a modern spa remains unrealized. Leo Hayashi also retains ownership of land within Carbon Canyon, though some 400 acres of steep hill lands on the south side of Carbon Canyon Road just east of Hollydale Mobile Home Estates was purchases from him by the Orange County Transportation Authority and transferred to Chino Hills State Park in a deal involving transportation mitigation funds elsewhere in the county.
Mrs. Wright's grandfather, William Newton Miller, was the owner of La Vida from about 1924, as first noted here from an Orange County Register history timeline. The source, however, stated that Miller operated the resort from that date with an unnamed son-in-law. What Mrs. Wright clarified was that the son-in-law was, in fact, her father Robert L. Dickenson, who, with his wife, Lois Miller, owned La Vida with the other Miller children and managed the site for some thirty years. A post on this blog showing a 1960s postcard of one of the pools at La Vida included mention of a 1957 Los Angeles Times article that quoted "R.L. Dickenson" talking to the paper about the opening of the second pool at the resort. At the same time, some online references to Brea city council meetings from 1963-1967 included material about Dickenson petitioning the council for hearings about issues like property tax valuation and costs for new water delivery systems at La Vida.
She also commented that "my grampa was in the oil business and lost a fortune when the crash hit. The only thing he came away with was the springs, very sad time for the family." She noted that Miller, who was listed in the 1930 census as an "oil operator" was a partner in the Pugh-Miller Drilling Company and was a trustee in the Bank of America, as well as being involved in other organizations. Recent poking around found maps showing that the firm had oil wells near Topanga Canyon in the Santa Monica Mountains and, more importantly, in Signal Hill near Long Beach, which was a hugely successful oil field in the 1920s and afterward. The crash of the stock market in 1929 and the subsequent Great Depression is what Mrs. Wright referred to as affecting Miller's financial situation, leaving him with only La Vida.
Later, her account continued "my grandfather's shares were distributed evenly among the 4 siblings. The older 3 had also purchased some shares but my mom and dad had the most after grampa died." William Newton Miller, who was born in 1889, died in 1974, so those shares came some fifty years after he first became owner of La Vida.
She went on to say that "there were also 3 cabins across the street from the parking lot many years before me, but when I was young there were still remnants of the cabins on the ground. There also was a cabin on the hill across from the lower bath house which was below the restaurants about 20 yards of more. I used to work at the old bath house." As for this information, the first part seems to refer to structures, including one noted in several older (1920s or 1930s) real photo postcards of La Vida and one of these was lived in by the family of James Williams, who operated the resort from about 1915, a decade or more before Miller. William's descendant, Nick, shared some of that history and some photos of the family house perched on the hill across Carbon Canyon Road from the facility.
As for the old bath house, this is another structure found on La Vida postcards from the 1920s through the 1940s or 1950s, of which several examples have been posted here. Mrs. Wright recalled that "in the old bath house each tub had its own little room." One of the posts quoted from a Los Angeles Times report in the late 1950s about a disastrous boiler explosion that destroyed the original bath house and seriously wounded several persons. In the newer bath house, she remembered, "families would come in and go into the tub area and all of them would get in the tub together. The tubs were Roman sunken and you went down a few steps to get fully in." There is also a 1960s postcard, highlighted here in the past, that showed these tubs in the new bath house.
Mrs. Wright also stated that "there used to be a bottling plant down by where the old water tank sits on the hill and they bottled soda pop." This location would be on the far west side of the property where the tank, still sporting the La Vida logo, is the last major physical reminder, aside from bridge support bases and sidewalk remnants, of the facility. There was, however, also a La Vida plant in downtown Fullerton, as noted in some of the previous posts here.
She went on to say that, "around 1945-48 the soda pop company was sold to a man named Charley Shook (or Shuck)" who had once worked for Dr. Pepper. The earliest indications of the existence of the La Vida bottling company is from the late 1920s, about the time Miller became identified with the site, and there was a considerable expansion of the business during that era and well into the 1930s, when La Vida products were also bottled in northern California. Other posts here have featured La Vida bottles from such places as Sacramento and have spotlighted advertising efforts from the company in magazines and newspapers in the western states. Mrs. Wright then said that, "after that [the mid to late 1940s] they only bottled the spring water for a time and then that was also abandoned." Again, there are other posts here that feature La Vida bottles that appear to be from late 1940s to early 1950s era, when Shook (Shuck) appears to have expanded his efforts to market the soda.
Mrs, Wright continued that, regarding the water, it "is not sulphur, but mineral. There was a small sulphur stream that came out the canyon wall just down from the restaurant but it wa sclose to the water line of the creek. The spring is in a sort of a cave and was not drilled out by oil seekers." This is an interesting tidbit about the two types of volcanically-derived water found not just at La Vida but elsewhere in Carbon Canyon. Paul Nolan Hyde, a longtime resident in Sleepy Hollow, shared some of his remembrances for this blog in its early days, and specifically remembered the sulphuric content of the water in Carbon [Canyon] Creek when he was a boy back in the 1940s.
She also had an important correction regarding the pools, mentioned briefly above. She noted that "the pools are not described properly. The one in front with the fountain is the wading pool. It was the original pool and was at first deep in one end, but my dad had it filled to be a wading pool and installed the fountain when they built the big one behind it." This can be seen in the postcard here, highlighted in a previous post.
There was one other interesting Carbon Canyon tidbit shared by Mrs. Wright, namely that "my parents were part owners in the El Circulo, which was the place where the skiing ramp is." This was the "Club El Circulo," which Allen McCombs, publisher emeritus of the local Champion newspaper, stated was opened about 1963 where the old Camp Kinder Ring was operated from 1928 to 1958 by a Jewish organization in Los Angeles.
This new resort, Mrs. Wright went on to relate, "probably would have done well" except that there were some management issues "and the whole thing fell apart." She went to say that "even if the skiing ramp had not worked the rest of the project was a great idea and a lot of people came there to picnic and have dinner. There was a nice bar and restaurant and they had very good food." El Circulo later turned into the "Purple Haze," which had a colorful history in the late 1960s/early 1970s. The site has been, for many years, a horse stable and cattle sales facility.
The skiing ramp was known as "Ski Villa" and one of the more popular posts on this blog is about the short history of this unusual all-weather ski ramp with white needles as the base surface and the cement remains of which still are on the hillside off Canyon Hills Road just north of Carbon Canyon Road. With, however, indications that work on the long-gestating Canyon Hills subdivision of 76 houses is finally starting, the remains of the ramp are likely to removed in the very near future.
Hata still retains ownership of La Vida, though his late 1990s plans to reconstitute La Vida in a modern spa remains unrealized. Leo Hayashi also retains ownership of land within Carbon Canyon, though some 400 acres of steep hill lands on the south side of Carbon Canyon Road just east of Hollydale Mobile Home Estates was purchases from him by the Orange County Transportation Authority and transferred to Chino Hills State Park in a deal involving transportation mitigation funds elsewhere in the county.
15 February 2013
Carbon Canyon Historical Artifact #31: La Vida Lime 'N Lemon Mineral Water Label
This is another interesting item related to the La Vida Mineral Springs, a resort which operated on the Brea side of Carbon Canyon for decades and included a commercial mineral water business for many years.
While several examples of La Vida mineral water bottles have been featured on this blog over its lifespan, this item is very different and appears to be quite rare.
It is made out of a very thin sheet of metal and is fourteen inches long and three-quarters of an inch tall. At the rounded edges are two small holes about the size of what would be a finishing nail. Not quite half way across there is a distinct bend in the item.
Very likely this is a label that might have been tacked on to a wooden crate or a display shelf. Perhaps someone out there will see this and know exactly what it is and what it was used for. If so, please leave a comment!
There will be more La Vida material coming soon to continue this series of historical Carbon Canyon artifacts!
18 December 2011
Carbon Canyon Historical Artifact #26
This is another 10 ounce bottle from the La Vida Mineral Springs. It is the same type in terms of design and layout and era as the one featured last month and may be from about the same era: 1940s or perhaps not long afterward.
But, the reverse list of available flavors offered by the La Vida Bottling Company, Inc. is slightly different than the other bottle. For example, the one shown in November offered some flavors not found here or named differently. Such as, what is here shown as "Tropical Punch" is probably "La Vida Punch" on the other. Or, that one had "Lime Rickey" and this one shows "Lime Soda." Then, there was "Cheri Cola" on the first one and "Black Cherry Cola" on this. And, there are some, like "Tom Collins Mix" or "Grapefruit" from the other that aren't found here.
Finally, this bottle has a flavor that is in a larger font size, seemingly indicating the one that was found in this bottle, and, it's a pretty cool name: "Charley's Chocolate." Makes one wonder (maybe) who "Charley" and whether the attempt at alliteration made for a better flavor rather than just a catchier name!
But, the reverse list of available flavors offered by the La Vida Bottling Company, Inc. is slightly different than the other bottle. For example, the one shown in November offered some flavors not found here or named differently. Such as, what is here shown as "Tropical Punch" is probably "La Vida Punch" on the other. Or, that one had "Lime Rickey" and this one shows "Lime Soda." Then, there was "Cheri Cola" on the first one and "Black Cherry Cola" on this. And, there are some, like "Tom Collins Mix" or "Grapefruit" from the other that aren't found here.
Finally, this bottle has a flavor that is in a larger font size, seemingly indicating the one that was found in this bottle, and, it's a pretty cool name: "Charley's Chocolate." Makes one wonder (maybe) who "Charley" and whether the attempt at alliteration made for a better flavor rather than just a catchier name!
20 November 2011
Carbon Canyon Historical Artifact #25
Here is another vintage soda bottle from the La Vida Bottling Company made from water extracted from the firm's mineral springs resort on the Brea side of Carbon Canyon. While other bottles posted here have either been 32 ounce or 7 ounce examples (though note at the bottom image that there were, evidently, no 7 ounce products made by the company when this bottle was produced), this one is 10 ounces.
Moreover, on the reverse panel are listings of the flavors offered by the company at the time, which would appear to be in the 1940s or 1950s. It is possible that the flavor of this particular bottle is the first one listed, "La Vida Punch." Funny how there is the interesting spelling of "Cheri-Cola" for a cherry-flavored soda (maybe someone associated with La Vida was named "Cheri" . . . or was French?!) At any rate, fourteen flavors is quite a roster for a small company (even as "distinctive" as described) as this was one was.
The La Vida Bottling Company plant was located in downtown Fullerton, just off Harbor Boulevard along the railroad tracks of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railroad.
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