As noted in several posts on this blog previously, a major figure in the canyon was Edward F. Gaines, who owned the Flying Cow Ranch for about a half-century from the early 1900s to the mid 1950s. Gaines, who lived in the Paramount area near Long Beach, built a Craftsman-style ranch house, raised hunting dogs, stored his treasured and authentic 19th century stage coach, among other elements at the Flying Cow over the years.
The facility was created by Sytze (Sydney) Sybrandy, born in 1913 in Exmorra, a small dairy town in the northern Netherlands who lived for years in South Africa, where he married Ann Munnik in 1942. While his family were dairy farmers in both Holland and South Africa, Sybrandy went into civil engineering, receiving a degree in the subject in Cape Town in the latter country. He worked on bridge and road construction projects, followed by those with apartments and factories, before he formed his own practice in 1948.
Los Angeles Times, 25 August 1960. |
The first Christmas the Sybrandys, who had three daughters and a son, spent in America was covered in a lengthy article in the Long Beach Independent Press-Telegram including a photograph of the family. The piece noted that, while in South Africa, the yuletide holiday came in the summer, the family had to adjust to a different season even in the Mediterranean climate of greater Los Angeles.
Times, 25 April 1963. |
Sybrandy continued with a private civil engineering practice in Garden Grove and also was an architect for the Reformed Church of America, established in 1628 by Dutch colonists at New Amsterdam, better known as New York City. He designed and contracted to build church structures in Pomona and Diamond Bar, for example.
Times, 21 April 1963. |
In August, Sybrandy and his wife formally filed an application for rezoning "for [the] establishment of a non-denominational religious retreat" that was to be used for weekend events and feature "cabins, house trailer accommodations, picnic grounds, artificial lake, chapel and an open-air theater." It was reported in the Los Angeles Times that the Sybrandys "plan to develop the retreat as a philanthropic project with funds they saved during 20 years that Sybrandy worked as a civil engineer."
Times, 21 April 1963. |
Among the amenities was a 64-person dormitory, with sleeping arrangements of eight to a room; a lodge; a dining room; and a recreational area. It was also noted that
Natural facilities include the steep walls of the Carbon Canyon which form a natural amphiteater used to present biblical pageants. "Eventually," Sybrandy explains, "we plan to have a trail of scenes from the Bible along the walls of the canyon. Each will be lighted in turn at night with a taped narration broadcast over our public address system This is the sort of thing we do for our Easter Sunrise Pageant."Those Easter events were held for several years and included reenactments of scenes from the Bible concerning the life of Jesus and which featured Sybrandy's children and live animals raised at the site. Nativity pagrants were also conducted at the retreat. Churches were said to be very enthusiastic about Edendale, with one Long Beach church member stating "this is one of the best things in the world for these young people" because there was nothing like it for them in an area where "everything is houses and asphalt."
Times, 19 December 1963. |
Edendale, however, struggled to keep the momentum going over the long haul. Perhaps a major issue was that the increasing development in north Orange County made the trip out to Carbon Canyon seem like less of a retreat, compared to camps in the local mountains, for example. While youth and adults events continued to be held out there until at least 1968, the decision was made to sell the property. Sybrandy and his family lived in Brea for a time before he moved to San Diego County, where he died in 1998 at age 85.
Times, 7 June 1964. |
The postcard is taken from the steep hillsides across Carbon Canyon Road to the north of Edendale. The state highway, which was designated in 1933 but not signed and which was renumbered State Route 142, with signs, in 1964, is barely visible at the lower left corner. A tree lined driveway led to the complex. with the steep two-gabled white roof of the Gaines ranch house is just right of center.
Times, 23 March 1967. |
On the reverse of the postally unused card, produced by Amescolor, an Escondido company that produced postcards for the nearby La Vida Mineral Springs (which is likely where Sybrandy heard about the company), is a short description with the address and phone number of Edendale and reading "Close to population areas of Los Anglees and Orange Counties. Ideal for retreats, banquets, group meeting, hayrides, swim parties, etc."
A color postcard of the Edendale Christian Retreat taken from across Carbon Canyon Road, ca. 1963. |
22 comments:
I swam there often hiked the grounds raided the fruit trees enjoyed the animals housed there. I attended school with their daughter Pam . lived across the road for years and enjoyed it all. GOOD TIMES .
Thanks anonymous for your recollections and glad you found the blog and post.
My mother used to take my brother and I there to swim in the summer. One time she said that it was also a day camp, and would I like to go? My brother was definitely not interested, but I was, and so I went for a few days loved it. If you got up very early you could walk down to the "farm" and feed the huge pig, Priscilla. There were occasional opportunities to ride a horse just around the choral. And we did perform religious plays in the amphitheater. We had to memorize a bible verse each day and we learned religious songs. And of course, we swam, which was the big draw for me. I went back the next year with a friend of mine. I'm pretty sure it was about 1964 - 1966.
Hi Stephanie, glad you found the post and thanks for sharing your memories of Edendale.
I am remembering a summer day camp that my dad was a camp counselor at in the mid 60's.
It was called Whitiock Day camp. Could it have been on this site after Edendale?
Just checking back for a response...
Hi Unknown, there was a short window of about two years (1968-1970) when Edendale closed and the current mobile home park was developed on the property. Did a little searching, but could not find a "Whitlock Day Camp." Doesn't mean it wasn't there, though. Thanks for the comment and question.
Thank you for looking into it
I went to Whitiok Day Camp in the early sixties at Edendale. They had a fleet of 1950 Chevy Suburbans to haul us around
My brother and I attended Whitiock Day Camp in that area for years as children. I remember painting plaster of Paris, making lanyard keychains, playing powder ambush, farm animals and of course swimming. As a kid, it was great fun and I have nothing but fond memories of that place and the people who worked there. It was also nice for my parents since they worked they had someplace to take us where we were entertained all day 😃
Hi Anonymous,
My family owned Whitiok Day Camp. I believe they purchased the camp in 1963. The first place was a swim school in Whittier at Brea Blvd. & Whittier Blvd. They moved the camp to Carbon Canyon in 1964 to the first site below what is now the mobile home park. I believe the Sid Cybrandy family owned the mobile home park & the Christian school/camp. Whitiok was down at the bottom of the canyon by the stream that runs through there. Not sure what year it was, but the mobile home park was unstable & starting to slide. We had to move our camp. We stayed in the area, still the same stream, but we were directly below the Cybrandy’s buildings up top. Whitiok was a such a gift. You innumerates some activities, but we also had BB guns, sting shots, archery, played capture the flag, took hikes, had two or three overnight campouts per summer….. I believe my folks sold the camp at the end of summer 1972. They sold it to two of the camp counselor’s. Not sure how long it survived. So much fun and such a great way to grow up
Went to Whittiock at least a vouple summers. Loved it. Remember the swimming and contests to see who could swim underwater the farthest. Hikes where I had my little finger stung by a wasp and it swelled up twice as fat as my thumb. Playing in the creek on hot days and floating around in my clothes it was so hot. The other kids called me allangator after my name. Shooting everything bbguns bow and arrows slingshots. Awesome. Making those funky keychain lanyards. The girls could make these barrel twisting ones that looked like a dna strand. The place was staffed by some of the teenage kids of the adults running the place. I idolized these teens. One of the teen guys was into the rock band cream always playing them. Last name was Tuttle I believe. What I remember the adults who ran & owned the camp were teachers from Whittier and Norwalk making summer money. Hence the name Whittiock. The sent a vehicle to my house in Anaheim every morning and picked up me and my siblings. Dropped us off each afternoon. Great memories. Thanks to those that made it possible especially my Mom.
Do you recall about what years you attended? I think my folks sold the camp to two of the counselors that worked for them. It was a requirement for the counselors to be teachers. It was a way to support teachers during the summer, plus my Dad was a teacher turned administrator, so he was very pro teacher. It sounds like you might have attended Whitiok after my folks sold the camp in 1972. My older brother worked making plaster molds for the kids to paint as well as general duties around camp. The thing is I don’t recall the name Tuttle and with all due respect my brother was more a Rolling Stones fan, definitely not Cream. I think the name of one of the new owners was Mike, not sure of the other persons name. Sounds like they ran things just as my folks did. Love you reminiscing about laying in the stream on hot, smoggy days! It was a great way to beat the heat. It was really great your Mom gave you that opportunity. It was a real gift!
Your folks did a great job with Whitiok Day Camp. I Went there from about 61 or 62 until I aged out in 1967. Andy Culver was usually the driver for our daily commute to and from camp. I loved the totem logo and am trying to find a picture of it.
My sister and I attended Whitiok for 2years in the early 70s. "Chuck" would pick us up in a VW bus in LaHabra and others along the way. I remember the pool, the crafts, the hikes, and all we got to do including the overnight camp outs with the box of fresh nectarines. Fond memories for us "privileged" kids.
Hi Michael, thanks for your comment and recollections of the camp. If you happen to have photos, let me know at lahilahi@roadrunner.com.
I am bratty Michael Fowler's older sister. I think I have ONE surviving picture of some kids at Whitiok. I am searching right now. Would love to send a jpg to you.
Hi Tamara, thanks for the comment and if you find the photo, please send a .jpg to lahilahi@roadrunner.com and I'll be happy to post it.
In the summer of 1966 my older bro and I went to Whitiok. I was 8 years old and he was 11. We lived in Whittier. We were picked up at home and transported to the camp in a standout green colored 1950's suburban-like station wagon vehicle with two long bench seats in the back that faced each other. There were probably 10 kids on our route. On the way home on Fridays our driver would stop to get us ice cream bars/popsicles. The parents took turns weekly chipping in to pay for this. I remember the long car ride, hot days, arts and crafts, a muddy lake somewhere, and eating lots of watermelon. Nobody has mentioned the Whitiok chant that we would do at the end of the day. We spelled out: W-H! W-H! W-H-I-T! I-O! I-O! I-O-K! W-H-I-T-I-O-K! W-H-I-T-I-O-K! WHITIOK! WHITIOK! YAY! We would start out whispering this and repeat again saying it louder and louder each time. Maybe that's why I became a cheerleader in high school! LOL Those were truly the good ol days of summer growing up in So Cal.
Hi Anonymous of 4 September: this is awesome, thanks for sharing your memories!
It was on Edendale property when I went from about 1963-67.
It was so great.
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